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Parents of nursing passers may file damage suit

Parents of nursing passers may file damage suit
http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2006/10/18/news/parents.of.nursing.passers.may.file.damage.suit.html

NURSING board passers in Cebu and their parents have suffered too much that some are considering filing damage suits against those who insist on withholding their licenses.

Tanan (Tapok-tapok sa Nagkahiusang Nurses Batok sa Retake) is referring to Rene Luis Tadle, president of the University of Sto. Tomas (UST) College of Nursing; Earl Francis Sumile, president of the League of Concerned Nurses; and Michael Angelo Brant, president of Binuklod na Samahan ng mga Student Nurses.

The nursing students and their parents are against the three petitioners’ move to ask the Court of Appeals (CA) to reconsider its decision for a selective retake of the leakage-tainted licensure exams given last June.

Tanan’s legal counsel Edgardo Labella revealed that a number of parents have already approached him about filing a damage suit, particularly against Tadle.

“The parents now want to go on the offensive,” said Labella, also a Cebu City councilor.

“The filing of the petition for prohibition was done in bad faith, it was malicious and it was intended to prejudice the legitimate passers, particularly the honest ones,” he said.

However, he could only advice the parents to “hold their punches” and wait for further development.

Tanan legal affairs committee chairman Lino Bautista agreed.

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2006/10/18/news/parents.of.nursing.passers.may.file.damage.suit.html

Bautista said the filing fee may be too much for most parents. He would rather wait for the conciliation talks proposed by Labor Secretary Arturo Brion.

About 1,723 nursing graduates in Central Visayas passed the exams. But the numbers may change with the order of the appellate court for a retake of tests 3 and 5, for those whose names were added to the list of successful examinees after a recomputation of grades.

The recomputation was done after the Professional Regulation Commission (PRC) found out that the two tests were leaked to some examinees who underwent review classes in Manila and Baguio City.

Delay

Meanwhile, CA Associate Justice Regalado Maambong said that the case is very simple as it is a matter of “common sense.”

“It is (only) a question of fact. Was there cheating in this area? Those who were involved in cheating should be the only ones to retake the tests,” said Maambong in a radio dyLA interview.

He did agree with the directive of Brion, who ordered the PRC to desist from conducting oath-taking and issuing licenses.

In its 33-page decision released last Friday, the appellate court ordered the PRC to include 1,186 examinees that were removed from the list of board passers after the recomputation of grades, following the nullification of tests 3 and 5 of the June exam.

The court said that board passers in the original PRC list can take their oaths and get their nursing licenses.

It added, however, that the licenses can be revoked if investigators prove that a nursing board passer benefited from the leakage that was allegedly done in three review centers—R.A. Gapuz, Inress and Pentagon. (JGA)

http://www.sunstar.com.ph/static/ceb/2006/10/18/news/parents.of.nursing.passers.may.file.damage.suit.html

may we ask how much is the filing fee?

what if the filing fee will be shouldered by all the families of june 2006 board passers para hindi masyadong mabigat sa bulsa and at the same time mas marami tayo!

this is just a suggestion since lahat naman tayo ay apektado sa ginagawa nila tadle and company.

parent

Kung may sharing ng filing fee sa bawat lugar, puede siguro. Kahit hindi masyado malaki ang damages para mababa ang filing fee, ang importante ay iba-ibang lugar ang court suits.

Dapat iba-iba ang filers para iba-ibang location ng court hearings ang pupuntahan ni Tadle, Bautista, Baguio Braves, etc. and/or their lawyers sa buong Pilipinas--Luzon, Visayas, and Mindanao, para madama din nila ang hirap ng pinahirapan nila sa buong Pilipinas. Para sa lawyers at pamasahe lang sa eroplano, maghirap na rin sila, he, he, he!!!

Dapat iba iba ang circumstances ng complaints--iba iba complainants at hindi exactly the same ang respondents, para hindi exactly qualified sa consolidation ng cases sa isang court lang.

Filing damage suits is a step in the right direction, because THE BEST DEFENSE IS OFFENSE.

At kahit resolved na ang nursing scandal, the damage suits should be pursued to the very end.

Pwede ba bang idemenda sila TADLE sa kasong "Lack of common sense", HAHAHA.

Joke lang para matawa tayo ng konti.

I like the that idea of filing damage suit. Before we do, or anyone does, kailangan natin ng researcher para kumpleto ang FACTUAL data's po natin hindi kamukha nila na puro HEARSAY.

Kung talagang tatrabahuhin ng competent and diligent lawyers, mahihirapan sila Tadle, lalo na kung iba ibang lugar ang venues ng court suits and hearings dahil iba iba ang aggrieved passers at iba iba ang lugar at circumstances ng pinangyarihan ng paninirang puri sa kanila at pagkaabala nila.

For example, kung 20 ang court suits spread nationwide, ang cost of pursuing the cases ay spread sa 20 groups of complainants. However, on the part of Tadle, nag-iisa lang siyang sasangga ng court suits na yan sa iba ibang lugar ng bansa. It will take money, time, and effort for him to overcome those cases . Manalo man siya--which is not sure--magagastusan muna at maaabala siya ng husto bago niya magawa iyon! It will be a long and difficult battle for him the outcome of which is not certain to be in his favor!

Kahit mag-appeal sila Tadle, pag nakapag-oath taking na, it will be an uphill and quixotic climb in the Supreme Court, especially with the precedent of the 2003 bar exams. Useless ang appeal kung walang TRO. At paano ang TRO kung nag-oath taking na based on a Court decision--which will thus carry the presumption of regularity? Cancellation of license? Major problem of evidence yan!

The Supreme Court is not a trier of facts, so let us see if
Tadle and Baguio flunkers can have the Supreme Court change the CA decision. That will take time, and the passers will have taken their oath by then, and it is difficult to even attempt to invalidate their license on a case to case basis because it is impractical to PROVE who among each passer actually benefited from leakage!!! The CA decision pinpointed VENUES, Manila and Baguio, all right, but NOT specific EXAMINEES among 26,000 of them in these locations!!!

Anyway, ang matutuwa dito, lawyers. At ang problema, nasa Baguio flunkers and others. They are running short of time. Dapat, magprepare na sila for the coming December exams, otherwise maiiwan sila ng biyahe!!! They will look pathetic if they want to reform others but they cannot even do what is best for themselves.

The Baguio Braves should concentrate on punishing the culprits and reforming the exam system. The flunkers among them will just look sour graping by insisting on wholesale retake. The Baguio flunkers are the ones who need retake--not the passers-- because despite the leakage, they, the Baguio flunkers, failed. So they should take care of their own incompetence before branding passers as incompetent who need retake. Pag nag-appeal pa sila, Baguio Braves nga sila, matapang nga sila--pero, meaning: MATAPANG ANG HIYA !!!

Tama ang mga comments dito patungkol sa flunker-complainants na gustong pag-retakin ang passers.

The passers have proven their competence by passing the exams. The flunker-complainants proved their incompetence by failing the exams despite the leakage. So the flunker-complainants who are petitioning for the passers' retake are disgraceful. The complaining flunkers need retake but not the competent passers. The flunkers' lawyers should know better. They should tell their clients this brutal truth, not mislead them.

Hindi kasama sa comments ko ang libo-libong non-passers na sa halip perhwisyuhn ang passers ay matiyaga at tahimik na naggagayak para sa December exams. Persevere until you attain your goals. If you are not honor graduates, then overcome your shortcomings by devoting more time to your review, much more than others do. Pray hard. May God bless you and help you always.

The complaining flunkers simply make a spectacle of themselves--a sorry, pathetic, and ridiculous one! That is the long and short of it.

Ganito lang yan mga friends, say for granted na ang batch 2006 examinee ay lahat meron leakage, naturally meron rin papasa doon at meron rin babagsak at ganoon rin kung walang leakage sila di ba? Ang passers ay 75 above at below that ay bagsak.

Ibig sabihin lang nito ay maaaring ang bumagsak ay meron rin leakage na hawak at meron rin wala. Kung inaacussed nila ang nakapasa na meron leakage ay dapat iyon rin na bagsak na meron leakage inaacussed rin nila.

Isa lang ang ibig sabihin nito na kumo hindi sila nakapasa ay nagbibintang sila ngayon sa mga nakapasa na nandaya samantalang nandaya rin sila at hindi lang nakapasa di ba???

Ibig sabihin lang ng mga flunkers ay gusto lang nilang humirit kasi alam nila na meron leakage kasi sila mismo meron pero hindi nakapasa kaya napakasakit kuya Eddie isipin na meron silang hawak na leakage pero hindi sila nakapasa di ba??? kaya sila nag-iingay ngayon ay baka makahirit pa or makaisa, o sa madaling sabi eh magkaroon ng pardon or clemency or whatever term maybe applied na ipasa na lang lang lahat or retake para magkaroon sila ng second chance.

Ang conclussion dito ay talagang nag-aral lang ang pumasa at bagsak talaga ang hindi nag-aral, kasi kahit meron kang leakage kung hindi mo naman pinag-aralan eh babagsak ka talaga.

Subukan mo kaibigan kahit meron ka ng hawak ng leakage kung hindi mo naman pinag-aaralan ay hindi ka rin makikinabang, at kahit pinag-aaralan mo ang leakage kung mahina talaga ang ulo mo ay hindi naman papasok sa kukute mo ang leakage na sinasabi. At mahirap na rin talaga pakinabangan ang leakage na sinasabi kasi under time pressure na at maikli na rin ang oras kung sakali man kaya mahirap rin isipin na marami ang nakinabang maliban lang sa matalino at mabilis at meron retaintive na memory.

Distorted na ang sense of righteousness ninyo!!! Bakit si Tadle ang paparusahan e dapat itanghal siyang pambansang bayani dahil siya ang lumalaban para magkaroon ng cleansing sa nursing profession?

Kaya di ninyo ako makumbinse na pumanig sa inyo. Wala kayo sa tamang isip!!!

Retake na. Sa buong kapuluan!!!

Simple lang ibig sabihin- PALPAK ang PRC. Noon pang simula, palpak na. Bakit kasi manipulate ng manipulate ng scores?

Ako mataas average ko at di naman borderline. Bakit ako pinaparetake? pakisabi sa mga kasam natin, wag si Grace Urquiaga Pacleb ang gawing spokesperson kasi mayabang siya at walang respeto at selfish magsalita. At saka matanda na siya. Halatang malapit nang mag50 years old. Marami sa atin na ayaw sa retake ang ayaw din sa kanya. Bat di rin tayo ang pagsalitain at baka maawa ang mga officials? Si Tita (Matanda, e) Grace kasi, nakakaturn-off ang dating. Parang ginagamit niya ang issue para sumikat. Laging siya ang nasa TV. Bakit siya e mas marami namang credible na magsalita.

NO to RETAKE even for the 1687!!! NO to GRACE PACLEB!!!
NO to PRC!!!

Posted by Anonymous | 4:39 PM

Haynaku, KURAK ka dyan. Ayaw ko rin kay Grace Pacleb or Pacquaio? Parang boxer ang dating sa laki ng katawan. Mayabang nga at kung magsalita dinadamay tayo. Siya lang naman ang natutuwa sa PRC. Balita namin nagreview sa Gapuz. At nag-aral daw ian na di nagduty kasi takot instructors sa kanya. Mas matanda siya e. Halatang ginagamit nga niya ang nursing issue para sumikat. Apir ng apir sa TV. She is not the best and most credible person to speak for us. Dapat ang magsalita, yung mga bata na gaya natin na di third courser. Sa tanda niya, baka pa nga fourth courser siya. Mayabang si Pacleb. Down with GRACE PACLEB. Tumigil ka na sa kadadakdak dahil nakakasira ka sa diskarte ng no-retakers! Sa true lang.

NO TO RETAKE!!!!

Posted by Anonymous | 5:14 PM

Sa totoo lang di siguro lumala ito kung hindi si Grace inihaharap natin na ayaw sa retake. Sabi nga nung makaretake, gusto nila ng retake para lang mahirapan si Grace kasi mayabang. Nakakasira sa ating krusada ang tabain na iyan. Talaga namang ginamit niya itong issue para sumikat. Never heard naman ang taong iyan bago itong nursing scandal. Kumbaga nagride-on siya. At puri siya ng puri kay Rosero. Kaya tuloy marami ang naghihinala sa pagpasa niya. Gracia, sana tumigil ka na at pabayaan mo kaming mga bata na magtrabaho. Magrest ka. Mas makakatulong ka kung itikom mo ang bibig mo. Siguro, mag-gym ka na lang. Balitaan ka rin namin sa nangyayari, otei?

Posted by Anonymous | 9:10 PM

siguro nga, medyo matapang talaga sya magsalita...pero you have to admit, tama naman pinagsasasabi nya, alam nyo, kung tingin nyo mas magiging maganda kung kayo ang speaker, then go ahead....hindi yung daldal kayo ng daldal, pero wala naman ginagawa, u people are despicable, u talk about other people, and yet u dont see yourselves,..if grace wont speak for us, who will???....dapat bang mag rely kami sa tulad nyo?>...satsat ng satsat ....wala naman ginagawa....hindi ko friend si grace, i just see her on tv, but i'm glad that she and toto's group are speaking for us..kung ano man ang intention nila, be it for our rights or their fame...frankly i dont give a damn...basta all i know, we're all on the same boat, all trying not to sink...and thats why, i thank God for people like them nalang.....well i cant blame naman God for people like you dva?>....

Wala namang personalan dyan. Grace had done so much contribution to our cause for a no retake. Let's not be very judgemental. I don't know her personally, for me she's an asset to the ANN. Nice to know that there are first coursers who have that guts to show up and fight for his/her right for a "no to retake". I'm expecting more of them to speak before us in the incoming events or rallies that ANN will be having.

Anonymous said...
HOY, bakit daw wala tayo ng mga virtues ni Florence Nightingale? Ang babastos na natin. Kung sino man ang moderator ng blogsite na ito, tingnan ninyo naman. Wag naman kayong pumayag na magpersonal attacks na sila. Mga anti-retake pala ay mga bastos at walang modo. Dapat, magretake kayo ng values ninyo. Hindi imposibleng nagbenefit kayo sa leakage kasi parang wala kaong values. Dapat kayo lang ang magretake. Sana di kami isama.

3:12 PM

basta, SOUR GRAPING ang flunker na kumokontra kay GRACE. :P

basta, SOUR GRAPING ang mga flunkers na kumokontra kay GRACE. :P

----- Devil in Disguise-----
For Tadle and his fellows


I UNDERSTAND IF MR. TADLE WOULD REALLY HAD TO FIGHT FOR THE SAKE OF THE INTEGRITY OF FILIPINO NURSES...

IT IS GOOD IF WHAT HE DID IS FOR ENLIGHTENMENT WHEN IT IS DISCLOSED THE NEXT THING TO DO WAS TO SHUT-UP SO IT WILL NOT BECOME A BIG ISSUE IN THE WORLD.

... BUT IT PAINS ME TO REALIZE THAT HIS REAL COLOR IS BEYOND PATRIOTISM... IT IS LIKE TREASON PUNISHABLE BY DEATH... HE RUINED US, ABUSED US, BETRAYED US...

HE IS LIKE "JUDAS ISCARIOT" HE BETRAYED FILIPINO NURSES AND OUR COUNTRY...



HE ADDS PAIN TO THE AILING MIND OF OUR PRESIDENT WITH SO MUCH POLITICAL HARASSMENTS AND RESTLESS OF HER ENDEAVOR TO IMPROVE OUR COUNTRY,,,

BUT NOT JUST FOR THE PRESIDENT BUT TO ALL...

MR. TADLE AND YOUR FRIENDS...YOU ARE A DEVIL IN DISGUISE...

"DON'T LET YOUR PRIDE BE GREATER THAN YOUR COMPASSION,,, THE DEVIL IS WORKING ON YOU"

FORGIVE ME IF I AM WRONG... STOP IT MR. TADLE AND TELL YOUR FRIENDS TO SHUT-UP!BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE FOR YOU...

BY NOW WE ARE PREPARED TO FILE CHARGES AGAINST YOU FROM LUZON, VISAYAS AND MINDANAO EXCLUDING OTHER INDIVIDUALS...WE ARE READY ANYTIME WHEN YOU AND YOUR FELLOWS PRICK US AGAIN.



D.A.S.A
U.S.A PARENTS/NEW NURSES
Batch 2006

----- Devil in Disguise-----
For Tadle and his fellows


I UNDERSTAND IF MR. TADLE WOULD REALLY HAD TO FIGHT FOR THE SAKE OF THE INTEGRITY OF FILIPINO NURSES...

IT IS GOOD IF WHAT HE DID IS FOR ENLIGHTENMENT WHEN IT IS DISCLOSED THE NEXT THING TO DO IS TO SHUT-UP SO IT WILL NOT BECOME A BIG ISSUE IN THE WORLD.

... BUT IT PAINS ME TO REALIZE THAT HIS REAL COLOR IS BEYOND PATRIOTISM... IT IS LIKE TREASON PUNISHABLE BY DEATH... HE RUINED US, ABUSED US, BETRAYED US...

HE IS LIKE "JUDAS ISCARIOT" HE BETRAYED FILIPINO NURSES AND OUR COUNTRY...



HE ADDS PAIN TO THE AILING MIND OF OUR PRESIDENT WITH SO MUCH POLITICAL HARASSMENTS AND RESTLESS OF HER ENDEAVOR TO IMPROVE OUR COUNTRY,,,

BUT NOT JUST FOR THE PRESIDENT BUT TO ALL...

MR. TADLE AND YOUR FRIENDS...YOU ARE A DEVIL IN DISGUISE...

"DON'T LET YOUR PRIDE BE GREATER THAN YOUR COMPASSION,,, THE DEVIL IS WORKING ON YOU"

FORGIVE ME IF I AM WRONG... STOP IT MR. TADLE AND TELL YOUR FRIENDS TO SHUT-UP!BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE FOR YOU...

BY NOW WE ARE PREPARED TO FILE CHARGES AGAINST YOU FROM LUZON, VISAYAS AND MINDANAO EXCLUDING OTHER INDIVIDUALS FROM OTHER PLACES...WE ARE READY ANYTIME WHEN YOU AND YOUR FELLOWS PRICK US AGAIN.



D.A.S.A
U.S.A PARENTS/NEW NURSES
Batch 2006

guys be professionals. wag umatake ng personal sa isang kasamahan ng grupo.

on second thought, i don't think that is the line of thinking of board passers. maybe it is one of their tactics to divide the board passers.

i am a parent, and i do not know ms. pacleb personally but if you are a parent or a board passer, you will receive constant updates from her.

lastly, if my memory serves me right, she was one of those board passers who had the guts to take a stand against retake and together with a handful board passers, unified everybody including parents.

Parent

Tama kayo diyan, those attacking Grace are definitely "Flunkers" because their comments are not even intellectual. I believe that even if they retake the exams for 10 times, they'll never pass it... that's how pathetic they are...

KASI NAMAN, ANO BA ANG SINABI NG GRACE SA VIEWPOINTS? ANG YABANG NIYA. KESYO DI DAW SIYA NAGREVIEW PARA PUMASA SIYA. THERE ARE MANY WAYS OF PASSING- LEGAL AT ILLEGAL. WAG NAMAN SANA SIYANG MAYABANG. WALA PALANG SILBI SA KANYA ANG LOCAL BOARD KAYA GANUN ANG ATTITUDE NIYA. GINAGAMIT LANG NIYA ANG ISSUE PARA MADISCOVER NA MAG-ARTISTA. PURO SILA NA LANG ANG NAGSASALITA FOR OUR GROUP E DI NGA SIYA CREDIBLE KASI NAKAKA-TURN-OFF ANG ARRIVE NIYA. MALAKAS MASYADO ANG HANGIN! SI TOTO NA LANG LAGI DAPAT! O MGA FIRST COURSERS. SA DAMI BA NAMAN NATIN NA ANTI-RETAKE NA FIRST COURSERS, NI ISA, WALA SILANG MAKITA NA PUEDENG MAGSALITA FOR US. IMPOSIBLE. NOT UNLESS GUSTO NILANG SILA LANG PARA NGA SUMIKAT!

naku na 'out of context' nyo lang po siguro yung comment ni grace... she didn't mean any harm to all board passers... alam nyo naman ang media, lalo na kung abs-cbn, chop chop ang broadcasting nila lalo pa kung biased sila sa issue...

i have my respect for grace and toto aquino... sila po ang naging voice nating mga 'board passers' (both 1st coursers & 2nd coursers) kasi yung mga first coursers were not that organize pa at that time na kasagsagan ng nursing controversy...

ngayon po, madami na tayong 1st coursers na representative from diff schoolds na member ng ANN...

let us unite po - ALL 2006 BOARD PASSERS! huwag po tayong magpadala sa panggugulo ng media, UST, mga pulitiko sa issue... isa lang ang ipinag-lalaban natin dito - ang ating RN LICENSES!!!

GOD BLESS EVERYONE!!!

guys, walang personalan naman ke ka grupo natin o hindi. ipakita natin sa mundo at sa sarili natin na tayo nga ay karapat-dapat sa isang profession symbolized by a spotlessly white uniform. afterall, huwag nating kalimutan na lalampas din tayo sa gusot na ito. when this happens, tayo pa rin ang magsasama-sama. nagkaiba man tayo ng opinyon, mag-kaisa tayo sa hangaring hindi mabahiran ang mataas na pagtignin sa propisyong nakayanang umahon sa pagiging isang profession galing sa kahirapan.remember, at one time nursing is equated to slavery? alagaan natin ang narsing dahil ito ay atin.

---a parent nurse

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