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Don’t hire new grads, dean tells U.S. nurses

Don’t hire new grads, dean tells U.S. nurses

http://www.philippinenews.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=93dd34149d06d68b6abf179e6b8db3cf
Jun Ilagan, Aug 30, 2006

NURSES in the United States involved directly or indirectly in the recruitment of nurses from the Philippines should consider only candidates with a minimum two- to three-year work experience and completely desist from hiring fresh graduates.

By doing so, the Filipino nursing community in the United States would help ensure the continued flow of only qualified and well-trained professionals into the American healthcare system.

This is the gist of the e-mail Dean Josefina Tuazon of the University of the Philippines College of Nursing, dated August 25 sent primarily to the president-elect of the Philippine Nurses Association of Southern California, Brenda Cohen. More than 50 other healthcare professionals here and in the Philippines were listed as secondary addressees of the letter.

A copy of the letter was provided Philippine News by the president of the Philippine Nurses Association of America, New York-based May Mayor.

The head of the Philippines’ premier nursing school apparently wrote the letter in order to rally her colleagues in the Philippines and in the United States into helping redeem the tainted image and reputation of Filipino nurses, as a result of the alleged nursing board exams leakage last June.

“Spread the word around that we need to do something in each of our own world,” Tuazon said in her letter.

She continued: “For some of you involved directly or indirectly in the recruitment of Filipino nurses, please be selective and choose only graduates from reputable schools. Do not recruit new graduates.”

Tuazon further explained that recruiting only the experienced nurses for overseas employment would also help stabilize the turnover rate of nurses in the Philippines and alleviate the brain-drain syndrome that has been increasingly affecting the nursing profession there.

On the quality of nursing education in the Philippines, Tuazon deplored the practice of many, if not most, nursing schools of increasing their enrollment beyond what their capacities and resources can handle. Thus, she said, these so-called diploma mills resort to hiring new and raw graduates as teachers, effectively removing the clinical experience requirement so essential to nursing instructorship.

“For Filipinos based abroad, we hope you will tell your relatives and friends in the Philippines who intend to take up nursing to enroll only in reputable schools,” she urged. “And if you have connections to your alma mater, pressure them into doing what is right towards quality nursing education.”

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Along this line, Tuazon insisted that nursing schools ought to have a set of criteria for selecting and keeping students. While she appreciates that most nursing students eagerly look forward to working abroad, the least nursing schools could do is to conduct pre-admission screening and then work hard to make good nurses out of the students.

“Let’s pressure schools into adopting a selection criteria,” she said. “Not just anybody and certainly not everybody can be nurses. Nursing cannot and should not be merely used as a stepping stone to go abroad.”

As investigation into the alleged test leak continued alongside government efforts to start fixing the breached licensure testing system, some “players” are shrewdly, if not inappropriately, positioning themselves to gain from the scandal. Tuazon specifically referred to how several review centers are jostling with one another in order to win over the lost customer base of Gapuz and Inress, two review institutions implicated in the scam.

The scramble seems a pitiful reminder of the gallant and almost successful bid put up by the Philippines for accreditation as a testing center of the U.S. National Commission on Licensure Examination (NCLEX) for nurses. The (U.S.) National Council of State Boards of Nursing last week shelved that application as a direct repercussion of the scandal.

Manila newspapers also reported last week that according to Dante Ang, chair of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas, he has received information that the state of Arkansas will not hire nurses who took the June 2006 board exams.

In the meantime, PNAA’s Mayor expressed her disappointment over the results of the controversial nursing board exams. Whether or not there was a leak, she noted, the passing rate of 42 percent (17,000 out of the 42,000 examinees) is still alarmingly low.

“It is an embarrassing percentage and tends to mirror the deteriorating quality of nursing education in the Philippines because of the proliferation of diploma mills,” Mayor told Philippine News.

“Many schools do not even have hospital affiliations,” she lamented, citing the case of an information technology school chain that now offers an undergraduate nursing program.

Both Tuazon and Mayor, as well as the institutions they represent, however, see a silver lining amid the scandal. “It had to take a scandal like this to call the attention of media and the public to the fact that there is something very wrong in the nursing profession today,” Tuazon said in her letter.

The PNAA, on the other hand, has issued a position statement condemning the alleged test leakage.


FROM : http://www.philippinenews.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=93dd34149d06d68b6abf179e6b8db3cf

wow what a very SELF SERVING LETTER

HOY TUAZON ANG KAPAL MO. MAG EMAIL PA BA SA STATES HA PARA HINDI MA HIRE NEWLY GRAD NURSES??!! AT DAPAT GALING PA SA REPUTABLE SCHOOLS??!! REPUTABLE PA HA, TALAGA SABI KO NA BA INGGIT LANG TO EH GUSTO NYO KAYO LANG MAG PRODUCE NG NURSES. DAPAT SAMPAHAN KA NG HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATION LECHE KA! na KAKA HI-BLOOD NA KAYO LAHAT!! SOBRA BANG INGGIT NYO SA NEWLY GRADS.. KAYO PA SUMISIRA SA BUONG MUNDO. PANO PAG HINDI NA NAG HIRE DITO HA..ikaw una NAMIN HAHANAPIN. MAGTAGO KANA GRRRR...
*pukpok upuan sa ulo ni lola tuazon*

And you though UST was bad..

How dare you asked such selfish request? Ang kapal mo!!!!!!!!!!!

I just hope lightning strikes her this very moment.

Go six-feet under, witch!

Yung mga parents ng mga nurses na ayaw mong i-hire ang gumagastos by way of taxes (like VAT, etc.) ng subsidy sa UP system dahil hindi sila full tuition fee rate.

At top lang kayo dahil mura ang tuition fee at yung marurunong na high school graduates ay attracted nyo. Pero kung tatanggap kayo ng average students ay you will be no better than other schools.

For you to ask foreign employers to stop hiring of Filipino nurses who are fresh gradutes, how unkind and unGodly of you!!!

I know of a batch of fresh graduates, newly passed in the PRC exam, who went to the US. They are from what you will consider a diploma mill. My particular example worked in Florida, in California, and finally in Georgia to join a relative. Upon arrival in Georgia, she applied in two hospitals. She was accepted by both and was asked to start right away. But no, mamimili pa siya kung alin ang tatanggapin, and she would rest for a few days.

Now, she's driving her third car, she has a two-storey house, color TV with giant size screen, etc. She is not from UP or UST and she considers herself average but she loves her job and she cares for her patients--and there lies the difference--not in any intricate knowledge of surgical nursing or psychiatry.

Akala ng top schools they are way above others, and that others can't do the job. They are wrong!!!

ANG KAPAL! FUCKTARD! ITS BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE U KAYA GANITO ANG PILIPINAS!

INSTEAD OF HELPING, MAS LALO MO PAKAMI DINADOWN! WHAT KIND OF A PERSON ARE U??????

Whats wrong with her? Ang hirap na nga ng buhay natin, pinapahirapan pa niya. Whats wrong with being a fresh graduate? We were all fresh graduates once. She does really thinks she knows everything. This is trully unpatriotic. Tuazon, you should apologize to the thousands of new graduates you just insulted.

Their motives are all coming out. Shame on you, the "elite" Tuazon.. May you burn in hell!!!

ANG KAPAL NG MUKHA MO TUAZON! ANO PALAGAY MO SA SARILI MO,ISANG KAPITA-PITAGANG NILALANG? HELLO? OKEY KA LANG? SINO KA PARA SIRAIN ANG BUHAY NAMING LAHAT. DAPAT KAYO ANG TUMUTULONG SA AMIN SA HALIP NA SIRAIN KAMI. MAKONSENSIYA KA SA PINAGGAGAWA MO. MAY KARMA YAN!

TUAZON.....ON CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF A FILIPINO CRAB-MENTAITY ATTITUDE.....
SHAME ON YOU....IF I KNOW, MERON KANG ANAK OR KNG HINDI MAN EH KAHIT KAMAG ANAK MAN LAMANG NA NAG AARAL NG NURSING PARA SA IKABUBUTI NG KANYANG BUHAY.
WE DESERVE A CHANCE TO PROVE OURSEVES.....
DARATING ANG KARMA SAYO.....

TUAZON.....ON CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF A FILIPINO CRAB-MENTALITY ATTITUDE.....
SHAME ON YOU....IF I KNOW, MERON KANG ANAK OR KNG HINDI MAN EH KAHIT KAMAG ANAK MAN LAMANG NA NAG AARAL NG NURSING PARA SA IKABUBUTI NG KANYANG BUHAY.
WE DESERVE A CHANCE TO PROVE OURSEVES.....
DARATING ANG KARMA SAYO.....

TUAZON.....ON CLASSIC EXAMPLE OF A FILIPINO CRAB-MENTALITY ATTITUDE.....
SHAME ON YOU....IF I KNOW, MERON KANG ANAK OR KNG HINDI MAN EH KAHIT KAMAG ANAK MAN LAMANG NA NAG AARAL NG NURSING PARA SA IKABUBUTI NG KANYANG BUHAY.
WE DESERVE A CHANCE TO PROVE OURSEVES.....
DARATING ANG KARMA SAYO.....

Dean tuazon of U.P mga pasweldo lang kayo ng taong bayan and that inludes the parents of those newly grads whom you want to be jobless abroad. You should be ashamed of your acts, lives are at stake here. Mga students at parents na nga umaayos ng gusot na di naman sila dapat ang mag shoulder ganito pa ginagawa mo. Be ready and kumuha ka na ng pinakamagaling mong abugado. Napaka halang ng bituka mo!

GOD WILL GIVE US JUSTICE AND WILL PUNISH PEOPLE LIKE YOU MRS. TUAZON

MAY BOBO DIN PALA SA UP.

d lhat sa UP mtatalino..dami din cla unemployed na graduates kaya wag cla magmarunong lalo na DEAN TUAZON!!!bullshit ka!..wag mo kami idamay sa kalokohan mo..concern ka nga ba tlga o inggit ka lng kase mtanda ka na at d ka na pwede sa US mgwork..mamatay ka na lhat ng june 2006 passers GALIT sa iyo..may SUMpa na sa iyo..hlaka!!!!!bwahahahaha!!

DEAN-NA-NATUTO!

MRS TUAZON,
NAWA'Y PATAWARIN KA NG DIYOS NA MAYKAPAL SA MGA GINAGAWA MO. ILANG LIBONG ESTUDYANTE ANG SINIRAAN MO NG WALANG PATUMANGGI.ILANG IBONG PANGARAP ANG PATULOY MONG SINISIRA AT BINABAHIRAN.
SANA'Y MAAWA KA AT MAG ISIP.....

MAG SAMA KAYO NI DANTE ANG NA IPINAGLALABAN AY ANG KREDIBILIDAD NG MGA NURSE KAHIT NA ANG KAPALIT AY MASAGASAAN ANG KARAPATAN NG LIBO-LIBONG INOSENTENG EXAMINEES.
ANO BA MAS IMPORTANTE SA INYO, ANG KREDIBILIDAD NG ISANG TAO O ANG KARAPATAN NIYA? MAAARING SIRA NA ANG KREDIBILIDAD NG ISANG TAO NGUNIT MALINIS ANG KONSENSYA NIYA SUBALIT KUNG AALISIN MO ANG KARAPATAN NG ISANG TAO GAYA NG PAGPAPA-RETAKE NG HINDI MO NAPAPATUNAYANG NAGKASALA ANG BAWAT ISA AY ISANG MABIGAT NA KASALANAN. KAYO MAN MRS. TUAZON AT DANTE ANG ANG ALISAN NG KARAPATAN, SIGURO UNANG UNA PA KAYO SA PILA SA MGA RALLY.

PS. EH KUNG ALISAN KAYA KAYO NG KARAPATANG MABUHAY?

Dean Tuazon is a GOVERNMENT EMPLOYEE because UP is a government educational institution. She should serve the people, not harm them. What she did is TREASON.

She should be KICKED OUT from UP because she is SABOTAGING the government's efforts to uplift the conditions of Filipinos, to find jobs for them. Ito, hindi na nga gobyerno ang naghahanap ng trabaho para sa nurses, sisirain pa niya ang opportunity nila. The unkindest cut of all from a government employee! Kung yung puti mismo, welcome ang 2006 passers because they will be subjected to further individual screening, tapos pangungunahan pa niya yung mga puti. We do not need Filipinos like her, UP can operate without her.

Ang daming successful graduates ng other nursing schools sa abroad, hindi ba niya alam yun? Kahit yung tingin niya ay galing sa diploma mills, mataas pa ang sweldo kaysa kanya ng di hamak! At yung ospital na pinapasukan nila sa US, akala mo hotel yung iba sa ganda! Yung delivery room, doon mismo sa private room!!!

I just hope somebody would sue this biatch.

I hope the governement would do something about it. who gave her the right to detroy the dreams of the thousands of aspiring fresh grad nurses to work abroad? no one!!!! kharma will get you, you selfish dean!

Don't believe Tuazon, she's a mental patient na pinakawalan ng UP..... America is a very intelligent country, who is she to dictate them..... eat your own integrity if you still have, together with Dante Ang you dont know the meaning of integrity.... Integrity to you is destroying others...

I firmly beleive that this Tuazon lady need to shut up and leave the new graduates alone. She does not have the rights to stop them from working abroad. So what do you expect? pag aaralin ng mga magulang ang mga anak nila for 4 years and then gagraduate? tapos di makakatrabaho sa labas ng Pilipinas? so what will happen then? how many new grads get a job right after graduation? I am sure 50% of these new grads will eventually get married have babies, and never will able to find a job...di dadagdagan na naman ang mga palalamunin sa Pilipinas? is that the right to do? magpakabayani sa sarili mong lupa tapos magugutom ang family mo? that's bullshit!!!! I think they should offer more jobs, and good working conditions for the Nurses there in the Philippines, so it will discourage these kids to leave the country. Pero they don't do shit at all, I feel sorry for my fellow new grads dahil they are already confused, tapos ganito pa ang gagawin ng mga epal na katulad ni TUazon sa kanila? anyways, Kids, don't even beleive this wrinkly witch.. if you want to apply abroad? go for it. follow your heart. trust me what ever you want, you can get it.just put mind and heart to it. NEVER ever give up. Trust me, I am a proof to that. It took me 12 years before finishing my BSN ( mahabang story). But I am a new grad also like you, but I was just lucky to get hired here in the U.S. Hanggang ngayon I can't beleive that I actually have the job and working na.Parang kahapon lang I was in Olivarez College na parang tanga tanga.now I am working in telemetry floor na. so tuazon? here is my comment to you. How would you feel if one of these new grads will be taking care of your relatives, your husband/lover, kids? or better yet, will take care of you? what will you say to them after all these bullshits? think about that.

baka nakakalimutan mo MRS. TUAZON na taong bayan ang nagpapasahod sa iyo? at kaya open pa din ang UP ay dahil sa mga taong bayan na nagbabayad ng buwis para maipasahod sa iyo at maipagpaaral sa mga estudyante ng UP.

IKAW ang sumisira sa reputasyon ng Plipinas at mga pilipino abroad!

How dare you.

Nakakahiya ang ginawa mo.

It is not a good thing for a dean to make those request. She is supposed to defend and guide fresh graduates because these newly become nurses will be the one who will take care of her pag na hospital sya. At least now alam na natin kung ano ang gagawin sa kanya in case she will be under our care. Pag siya magiging patient ko, lagot siya! Lintik lang ang walang ganti!

TO TUAZON :

NAKU...MAS MALALA KA PA PALA SA ISANG "IPIS SA SOUP" EKA NGA NI DANTE ANG...HINDI KA LANG PALA IPIS...PARA KANG FUNGUS...NAKAKASIRA NG MGA BAGAY..DAPAT SA IYO SPRAYAN NG LYSOL PARA MAWALA KASI SALOT KA...NAKU BUTI KUNG HINDI KA IKAHIYA NG PAMILYA MO...NATURINGAN KA PANG GANYAN EH BALIW KA PALA...ANG SAGOT NG MGA JUNE06 NLE PASSERS SA IYO------" WE UNDERSTAND HOW YOU FEEL" HAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAH

Dean Tuazon is an example of a monster in her own rights!!!who is she to judge the newly grads/newly passed nurses?Napaka taas ng tingin sa sarili. PAsahod lang sya ng taxes na binabayad namin sa govt!!Di na nahiya sa ginagawa ,i thought you are a professional person pero sa ginawa mo, mas bulok ka pa sa isang taong di nakapag aral! I thought then that UST faculty are cruel, pero mas higit pa pala ang Tuazon na ito!!may karma din ang taong tulad mo!

Paging second-courser lawyers, or PRC:

Can't her act of downgrading members of the nursing profession and sabotaging/destroying their opportunity to be gainfully employed abroad be considered UNETHICAL CONDUCT or CONDUCT UNBECOMING A PROFESSIONAL, for which reason she should be stripped of her professional license?

PUTA KA TUAZON ALIMANGO KA!!!!!!!!! GUSTO KONG MABALITAAN SA TV PATROL NA MAY KASO NG ISINAMPA SAYU!!!! MAG DIDIWANG SIGURO LAHAT NG 17,800 NEW NURSING PASSERS/GRADUATES NA SINISIRAAN MO!!!!!!!!HUMANDA KA PUNYETA KA!!!!MAKARMA SANA ANG SUCCEEDING UP NURSING GRADUATES DAHIL SAU TUAZON!!!

PRC should investigate her for unethical conduct, conduct unbecoming a professional, and for undermining PRC. In effect she is saying that she is way above all these fresh nurses, and that PRC or the Philippine government licensing system for professionals do not produce professionals who are worthy to be hired...

to Mrs. Tuazon,...Bakit po ninyo pinag-uutusan ang ibang bansa na huwag mag-hire ng fresh graduate kung gusto naman nila. Sila naman ang magpapasahod at hindi naman ikaw??? at bakit bigla ka na lang sumisingit ng ganito. Marami na nga sa atin ang walang makain at hanapbuhay tapos ikaw pa mismo ang gustong huwag sila makapaghanapbuhay??? Sa ibang bansa pinagtatakpan nila ang kanilang kababayan, pero iba ka??? parang sarili mo lang kagustuhan ang sinasabi mo in the name of credibility as an excuse at iyong sinasabing stigma na sa too lang ay puro haka-haka at nasa isip lamang ng mga makikitid ang utak!!!

Mrs. Tuazon maybe is among the generation of "MAKAPILI" remnants of Japanese occupation who are or still alive.

Please don't act as if you are our representative. Hindi namin kailangan ang tulad mo.

Dapat pa nga Mrs. Tuazon ay nauunawaan mo ang kalagayan ng mga fresh graduates???

Pero iba ka talaga. Parang nag-uutos ka pa na pugutan ng ulo ang mga fresh graduate???

Wala ka sigurong pakiramdam. Huwag na kayong magmamapuri at magmalinis. Maski sa Bible sinsabing walang taong hindi nagkakasala, at isa ka na doon. Bakit ka nagsaabi ng ganoon na ipinapahamak mo pa kami alang-alang sa reputation na gusto mong ipaglaban??? Sa tingin namin ikaw mismo wala ka ng reputation na masasabi pa!!!

Mrs. Tuazon, masyado mo yatang ina-understimate ang kakayahan ng mga bagong Nurse?. Hindi sila mga robot na kung ano ang sinabi mo ay iyon lang ang lalabas sa utak nila. Sa totoo lang ay baka marami pa sa kanila ang pwedeng pumalit sa pwesto mo.

Dahil sila ay tao, hindi nangangahulugan na hindi sila natuto sa bawat araw na ginawa ng diyos. Sa oras ng trabaho ay natuto sila at hindi lang iyong exam na kakaunti ang pagbabasehan mo ng pagtingin mo sa kanila. Sa totoo lang meron kasabihan na "EXPERIENCES IS THE BEST TEACHER." Huwag mo kaming itali doon sa kapirasong exam na yan

correction po "FRESH NURSES" po pala!!!!

Balang araw, magkakasakit din at papasok ng hospital sina Dean Tuazon at Dante Ang. When that happens, they better not enter a local hospital--dahil hindi mawawalan ng 2006 passer dito, o passer ng ibang year pero kamag-anak, kaibigan, o sympathizer ng 2006 passer.

Buti pa, they should go to the US and enter a hospital there. Kaya nga lang, ang nandoon ay passers ng NCLEX na ang test questions ay hanggang 265 lamang, hindi 390, lalong hindi 500! So, hindi pasado sa standard nila.

Pero huwag naman silang magbigti--dahil sayang yung lubid. Mas mahalaga pa iyon kaysa kanila!

Hello Politician!!! Oras na naman ng Pa-Pogi at Pa-Beauty!!!

Puro kayo ngawa!!! Kung gusto talaga ninyo na malinis ang bakuran ay simulan natin sa inyo.

Pwede bang lahat kayo ay pumunta sa simbahan at humarap sa altar at doon sa harap ng maraming tao ay inyong ipagsigwan na kayo ay walang bahid ng pandaraya at malinis at buong puso ninyong sabihin sa diyos na kayo at busilak at malinis ang kalooban at sa buong buhay ninyo ay kailanmay hindi nandaya!!!!!!!!

oh, come on. he people who posted their comments here certainly did not look beyond Tuazon's letter. =/

can you not see that Tuazon is only concerned about the quality of service that will serve clients who are not even our own countrymen?

tsk3. think. maybe that's why you weren't given the chance to be in the school she handles.

think, and don't judge.

sa tingin ko, ginagawa lang niya ang trabaho niya: protektahan ang mga estudyante niya. wala siyang masamang intensyon, alam niyo yan. kung hindi, well, hindi ako nagugulat kung bakit.

Before you say anything, do you even know the character of Dean Josefina Tuazon?

What she said wasn't unkind nor unfair. Nursing is not merely a job - it is a calling, a vocation. Unless you are reading what she said with a closed mind, you could see that what she is pointing is that nurses who wish to work abroad should be prepared for it. Such isn't child's play. And the best way to prepare is to have experience. A nurse needs honed skills, and the skills he/she must have aren't learned overnight. Serious thinking about the nursing profession points one to the fact that indeed, the quality of nursing education in our country is near deplorable. No specific school had been pointed out. But no one can deny the great rise of nursing schools offering diplomas in a shorter period of time, and most come with the sacrifice of losing the training a nurse should have. Again, it's not a generalization, but the number of schools falling under that is alarming indeed, especially if you are concerned about the quality of nursing education. Nursing isn't a profession in which the training could be rushed.

If one would examine the letter, it had not judged anyone, it had merely stated what is a fact. Admit it or not - that is your choice. But then, your choice- or anyone for that matter- doesn't change the facts. I would clearly advice some of those who commented to rethink their defensive and fallacious responses. If you do want to pose an argument, do it. Don't act on ignorance. Or would you rather say indignation?For clearly, I can't see any evidence of rights to be indignant.

did any of these people, who left a comment here, understand what the letter meant?
i can't believe it. i hardly wonder why these people aren't from UP, and CAN'T, and WON't be in UP.
i'm not writing this to defend anyone; these people apparently did not understand the implications of the dean's actions.
obviously, they are nursing fresh grads who wanted to work abroad.
can't you see that this is for the integrity of our country? we can't just send nurses who haven't had any clinical experience.
and those who wanted to work in other countries after they graduate surely do not love their own.
who's selfish?!

How brave all you ANONYMOUS people are. You vent your fury on someone who really does know what she is talking about. I agree with her that experience at home is essential if the Filipino nurse is to succeed overseas. I am truly disgusted at the sordid and unkind comments made against Dean Tuazon after she has dedicated her life to educating the Filipino nurse and bringing them to a new level of professionalism. UnGodly, I think not, but those that have been so harsh and downright nasty are the unGodly ones. After reading these postings, there is an obvious need for us to be more selective about the character of the people we accept into this SHOULD BE NOBLE profession.

Shame on you.

Joan.

How brave all you ANONYMOUS people are. You vent your fury on someone who really does know what she is talking about. I agree with her that experience at home is essential if the Filipino nurse is to succeed overseas. I am truly disgusted at the sordid and unkind comments made against Dean Tuazon after she has dedicated her life to educating the Filipino nurse and bringing them to a new level of professionalism. UnGodly, I think not, but those that have been so harsh and downright nasty are the unGodly ones. After reading these postings, there is an obvious need for us to be more selective about the character of the people we accept into this SHOULD BE NOBLE profession.

Shame on you.

Joan.

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