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President sees nursing exam retake as unnecessary, unfair

President sees nursing exam retake as unnecessary, unfair

By Sam Mediavilla, Reporter

Palace Spokesman Ignacio Bunye on Tuesday reiterated President Arroyo’s decision against the retaking of the leakage-tainted nursing licensure examination.

A “retake is unnecessary and unfair, particularly for those who come from poor families that had worked hard for their young ones to enter this noble profession.”

Bunye said, however, the controversy involving members of the nursing board of the Professional Regulatory Commission should be a warning to those engaged in corrupt activities.

He said because of the irregularity committed by some “they destroy not only themselves but also their peers and the whole profession they aspire to be part of.”

Dr. Dante Ang, chairman of the Commission on Filipinos Overseas, had asked the President to reconsider her decision rejecting his recommendation for a nursing board retest.

Ang explained that he is pushing for a retest because he wanted justice not only for the nursing graduates who took the exam but for hospitals and patients who would suffer from anomaly in the future.

“The issue here is not whether these 17,821 nursing board passers really passed the exam or not or whether the nursing board cleared the test papers. The issue is the question of competence, as well as the trust and confidence in the Filipino nurses,” Ang said in a radio interview.

He said he did not want the US authorities in charge of the National Council Licensure Examination to cast doubt on the capability of the nursing board examiners to organize the tests.

In his report which he submitted Tuesday, Ang noted that the level of competence of the nursing examiners has dropped because the Professional Regulation Commission lowered its passing mark.

He said the PRC recomputed the items in tests five and three of the licensure exam using a different formula, which makes it more unacceptable to just accept the board passers without questioning their integrity.

FROM: The Manila Times
http://www.manilatimes.net/national/2006/aug/30/yehey/top_stories/20060830top4.html

GET LOST DANTE ANG!!! You're such an absolute PEST in this issue. You're making things look really bad on the part of the passers when in fact it really isn't.
CAN'T U UNDERSTAND ENGLISH?! President GMA already said in finality that NURSING EXAM RETAKE IS UNNECESSARY AND UNFAIR!!! so GET THE HELL OUT OF THIS FREAKING ISSUE!!!

MADAM PRESIDENT I THINK IT WILL BE BETTER IF YOU REMOVE DANTE ANG AS THE HEAD OF TASK FORCE NCLEX..COZ ITS SEEMS THAT HE'S NOT DOING HIS JOB AND THAT IS TO MONITOR AND HELP THE OVERSEAS FILIPINO WORKERS....ALL HE DOES IS RIDING ON THE NLE LEAKAGE.....DANTE ANG IKAW ANG IPIS SA SOPAS.....SO KUNG SI PRES. GMA ANG NAKABLI NUNG SOPAS DAPAT LANG NA ITAPON KA NA NIYA!HEHEHE

To begin with, Mr. Dante Ang should reveal to the public through media--or media should ask him--what LICENSURE EXAM HE PASSED. If he did not pass any, then he should shut up because he does not know what he is talking about.

If he passed one, then it seems he did not learn much lesson from it. It is not true that the level of competence of the passers has been lowered, it is only in his biased perception of it. The passers remain the same. They are the replication of what has been going on since the board examination system was instituted--that every year thousands of examinees qualify and pass.

As for the image of the profession or of the 2006 passers, it is only in the minds of those who unfairly ostracized them. It is as if the advocates of retake live in Mars that they don't know how it is in the nursing profession on earth. The employers or RECRUITERS will be STUPID if they will hire nurse-applicants on the basis solely of their PRC licenses--and they are NOT STUPID. Whether foreign or local, the recruiters conduct their own separate and final testing of applicants before they are hired, as reiterated in the televised announcement to 2006 passers of a foreign recruiter who went to PRC on August 22, 2006.

Further, just what is Mr. Ang's proof that a particular passer cheated in the exam or is not qualified that would warrant a retake? His own prejudices?

He should buckle down to work and take care of OFW's who are being maltreated at this very moment in foreign lands because our government failed to work for government-to-government agreements on protection of our OFW's!!! If he has not yet taken the first step on this matter in his capacity as chief of the Commission on Overseas Filipinos, then he does not even know what his real work is. If it is under his jurisdiction, then he should carry the ball on it. If not, then he should show concern for OFW's by referring their plight to other government officials concerned, such as Secretaries of Labor and Foreign Affairs, and make sure that the problem is attended to.

When will Filipinos ever have service-oriented government officials??!!!!

HOY DANTE ANG!! WHAT THE HECK??!!! LOWERED THE PASSING RATE? ARE YOU SERIOUS MAN? CAN'T YOU READ SIMPLE DATA OR STATISTICS!!! IF IT'S LOWERED HOW COME ONLY 17,821 PASSED YOU DIMWIT!!! AND HOW COME EVERY LOSER IN THIS NURSING LICENSURE EXAMINATION WANTS A RETAKE??!! HELLO, ANYBODY HOME *KNOCKS ON DANTE ANG'S HEAD*

PAG DI KA NAMAN TALAGA NAGING HYPERTENSIVE DITO KAY DANTE ANG, OO...! PAPEL NG PAPEL SA HINDI NIYA TRABAHO. HINDI NAMAN ALAM ANG KANYANG DINADAKDAK
SA PHIL DAILY INQUIRER OF TODAY (AUG 30, 2006, P. 6), ANG SAID NA THE PASSING DAW FOR THE JUNE 2006 BOARD EXAM WAS 48 PERCENT.
IF ANG WILL JUST DO RESEARCH BEFORE HE TALKS, HE WILL FIND OUT THAT THE PASSING MARK FOR THIS JUNE 2006 BOARD EXAM WAS 58 PERCENT! COMPARING THIS TO THE PASSING MARK OF THE PREVIOUS BOARD EXAM OF 56 PERCENT, MAS TUMAAS ANG PASSING GRADE PO NGAYON.
ADD TO THAT PA THE THOUGHT NA ANG 17,000+ PASSERS NA ITO AY PUMASA SA ISANG BOARD EXAM THAT WAS CLEANSED OF THE LEAKAGE, THIS BATCH OF PASSERS IS ONE OF THE BEST NURSING BATCHES EVER!
MAG-ISIP KA, DANTE ANG! TAPOS NON, MANAHIMIK KA NA!

hoi hehehe eh baka naman may kamag anak si dante ang na d nakapasa kaya gustong gusto niyang pa retake ang exam....
tang na mo ha!!!
gapuz rules

i will not agree to you sir fifth poster.. you never know na cleansed tlga yung leakage sa exam natin. yup, i know na u passed na walang leakage.. pero its unfair for those who failed na walang leakage, na nagaral, pero nasama sila sa nawalan ng 90 questions. mas mababa tlga ang papasa sa ngayong exam sa ginawa nilang manipulated na scores natin. from 100 ginawa nilang 10 questions lang. sa 10 questions na yun, dapat makakuha ka ng mataas sa ibang subject, at dapat maka 8 correct na answer ka. in short dapat 2 lang mali mo, unlike sa 100 questions, kahit 25 mali mo, papasa ka parin. para sa akin lang, dapat si gloria wag kampihan yung prc, may nabasa kasi akong news na wala daw kasalanan si roserio. unfair naman un.. si roserio naglabas ng result na may investigation pa. bakit? sa test 3 lang ba at test 5 lang ba ang may leakage? bakit kaya ndi nila tingnan yung test 4 na exam... ako after ng test 4 may nakausap ako na nagreview sa SL review center. tinannong ko sya, hirap ng test 4 noh.. sabi nya.. ndi daw mahirap, nagulat ako. sabi ko ndi sya mahirap pero opinionated lahat ng questions. kaya ndi ko sure kung pareho kami iniisip ni mam letty kuan. sabi nya, halos lahat daw ng lumabas sa test 4 nasa speech nya at nasa book nya. sobrang nagulat ako at affected tlga ang test 5 ko sa kakaisip nung sinabi ng babae. tapos after ng test 5, may tinext akong friend ko. tinanong ko sya sa inulit na situation sa test 4. sabi ko, parang ndi board exam noh... may umulit na situation. tapos sabi nya. bonus nga daw yun sabi ng friend ko. kasi napagaralan nila yung sagot dun. kaya automatic 10 points sa test 4 tapos meron pang speech ni mam letty kuan. fyi: test 4 is Pathophysio, yung mga tanong dun pang fundamentals. i know kailangan aralin yung bio ethics. pero unfair naman yun na ilalagay nila sa MS. So. sa tingin nyo nalinis board exam natin.. think again!

alam mo wag ka kc maniwala sa sabi sabi, hinde tama ang magtanong ka at magcompare, iba iba ang defense mechanism ng tao, kaya nga kung minsan may nababaliw dyan sa exam na yan, merong iba sinasabi madali pero malalaman mo nalang bagsak pala sila, meron naman nahihirapan pero malalaman mo nalang pasado sila, defense mechanism lang yan siguro ayaw nila mapahiya kaya sinasabi nila madali kahit mahirap, alam mo pasalamat ako sa friend ko kc ang magandang technik daw sa board ay wag kang magtatanong kung nadalian ba or nahirapan ang kasama mo dahil baka mas lalo kang mapressure pag nadalian sila, malamang yun ang nangyari sayo kaya next tyme focus ka lang...... kaya payo lang pag ganyang klase ng exam wag ka magtatanong dahil matinde pa ang anxiety nung mga yan, dahil lahat takot bumagsak, ang gawin mo nalang ay magdasal, effective po yun... sana matanggap mo na pwede ka pa naman magtake kahit ilang beses eh... ps. isa po ako sa mga nahirapan at umiyak dahil feeling ko bagsak ako pero dininig ni lord ang panalangin ko kaya ako pumasa, praise god....

hay nako.. PURO KA NAG PAPANIWALA SA KATABI MO, DATI NG WALA SA FRAMEWORK YUNG EXAM NATIN OK.. WAG ISISI SA BATCH LANG NA ITO. AT YANG KATABI MO TINATANONG MO, MUKA KA SIGURO INGGETERA KAYA ININIS KA :P HAHAHAHA

that is not my point. my point is ndi tlga sure na malinis yung exam natin. she passed the exam. may binigay yung SL review center na speech ni mam letty kuan. aralin daw nila yun. sana wag kayo makitid ang utak. btw, i am for oath taking. pero pls wag nyo naman sabihin na malinis na yung board exam natin. ako naghahanap na ng proof na may nangyari din sa test 4. in fairness to ang, that is the best way to made an impact sa nclex. we did something sa leakage.

alam mo, optional ang retake, if you want a retake then go for it, wag ka magdamay ng iba, kami ang bahala sa sarili namin at ikaw ang bahala sa sarili mo, may cgnfs at nclex pa, ngayon kung idol mo si Ang then fine paalipin ka sa kanya..joke... In my own opinion Isa lang si ANG sa mga tao na gusto magpagulo sa profession ng nurse sa Pilipinas, ang habol nyan ay yung ibabayad ng Americano sa NCLEX na pwede nyang kurakotin pag natuloy di2, opinyon lang yon dhil sila rin naman mahilig magbigay ng opinyon, kaya ka ba naghahanap ng proof dhil gusto mo rin bang manggulo? ang exam natin ay dati pang ganyan, it is not a knowledge based exam, opinionated po yan, test of attitude, so ang mga bumabagsak dyan ay walang attitude..joke... Ngayon if you really want to help, dapat manawagan ka na ibahin ang klase ng exam sa susunod na batch, at ang leakage na yan, wala rin namang kwenta yan, bakit may mga taga inress, gapuz, SL na bumagsak, meaning to say tanging si lord lang ang magddcisyon kung sino ang papasa at babagsak sa exam nato, meron ako kakilala, after exam pacoffee coffee nalang at halos magcelebrate na, nakakuha daw sya ng leakage kaya sinabi ko sayang pero ok lang magppray nlang ako na sana pumasa ako kahit wala akong nakuha pero after ng result wala sya sa listahan ng pumasa kaya nagreklamo pa sya sa PRC dahil hinde nya matanggap...... Ang lesson dyan, no matter how you prepare, cheat in that exam, at kahit anung klaseng leakage pa ang nakuha mo, na kay lord pa rin ang final decission kung papasa, maaring pumasa ka ngayon pero sa cgnfs at nclex papasa ka kaya.... Pakiusap lang, hinde po ako nagmamayabang dahil wala ako maipagmamayabang, dahil ang lake ng inutang namin sa pagprepare sa exam nato, baon na kami sa utang, sana kung gusto ni ANG ng retake, bayaran nya ang inutang namin heheh, at pag nabayaran nya yon, payag na ako dyan sa retake na yan..... kung magooffer lang siguro si ANG ng 100,000k sa bawat pumasa, eh baka mabago pa ang isip nila at magexam sila ule, maaring sabihin mo mukha akong pera pero kung ikaw ang malubog sa utang, walang makaen at nakatira sa squatter area maaring maintindhan mo pa ako...... hinde po ako nakikipagtalo, pero nasasaktan din kc ako kay tuazon at ang, hinde ang exam na ito ang magandang basehan para masukat mo ang pagiging competent ng isang nurse, it took us 2 to 3 years of job experience bago natin malalaman kung competent tayo.....

Kung duling ka ba, ipagsisigawan mo na duling ka?

Ang dapat nyong gawin, i-challenge ang detractors nyo na tingnan kayo two years from now kung sino ang tama--sila o kayo.

Mahirap ang board exam dahil lahat ng topics kailangang pag-aralan mo, dahil strike anywhere ang tanong. At sa exam, hindi mo magagamit ang marami mong alam kung hindi iyon kasama sa exam questions.

Pero sa practice, kung saan ka asssign, sa umpisa balikan mo ang libro at masterin mo. At dito, ang mga alam mo ay mgagagamit mo. Sa practice, ang higit na kailangan ay sipag at tiyaga, at genuine compassion for your patients. Subok na yan ng maraming successful nurses.

HOY HOY MAARING HINDE MALINIS ANG EXAM NA ITO SA IYO, PERO ISA LANG ANG TOTOO MAS MALINIS ITO KAYSA SA NAKAANG BATCH.... SATISFIED KA NA BA SA SAGOT NAYON.... AT IKAW NAMAN WAG KA NA UMIYAK, GUSTO MO BIGYAN KITA NG PERA.... HEHEHE BASTA PAPAALIPIN KA SA AKEN, IKAW ANG GAGAWIN KONG NURSE KO.... HEHEHEHEHE

bro payo lang makonsya ka sa ginagawa mo sa kabila, wag mo pagtawanan ang kahirapan nila dahil baka bandang hule maghirap ka....

very well sed... yan nga ang nurse ngayon.. makikitid ang utak. you passed, pero tingin ko u dont deserve it. cguro, sabi ni god, kawawa naman tong bata na to baon na sa utang. ipasa ko nalang sya sa nle para ndi naman sayang yung inutang nila. pero ndi ko na sya ipapasa sa nlex. yung bumagsak naman. sinabi siguro ni god, ibabagsak ko nalang tong bata na to kahit alam ko na nagaral. pero ipapasa ko sa nlex. lesson d2, wag ka masyadong magyabang na pumasa ka.. God is good. cguro sabi sa amin, aral ka pa ng mabuti para sa preparation sa nlex. kaw pumasa ngayon kasi hangang d2 ka nalang magwowork. hahaha cge yabang... dont worry, pag nasa states na ako, kung bumaitbait ka at ndi na mayabang, pwede kita gawing tagabukas ng pintuan ko.

hehehhe, tignan mo muna ang sinulat mo bago sabhin kung sino ang mas mayabang sa atin, sorry hinde ako magaaply syo ng taga bukas ng pinto, taga ipit sayo sa pinto pwede pa hehehehe joke lang, puro ka siguro sabi ni god, puro ka akala, kaya ka bumagsak eh dahil akala mo pasado ka, at tingin ko kailangan mo talaga magaral dahil NLEX ka ng NLEX eh, NCLEX (National council licensure examination for registered nurses) po yun hinde NLEX....tsk tsk tsk o ayan ah may natutunan ka ng bago..... itigil na natin tung argument nato at mukhang hinde ako mananalo sayo, lagi nalang ako kasi napapahiya eh.... dont worry ipagppray kita na sana pumasa ka na sa dec and sa susunod mo pang exam pati sa NCLEX cause i understand how you feel....

dont worry ipagrapray din kita na sana pumasa ka sa retake nyo. kasi kung bumagsak ka jan, nakakaawa ka naman at nakakahiya.

dont worry ndi ka naman tlga papayag na taga bukas ng pinto ko eh. kasi dba, nle passer ka! hahaha tapos june 2006 pa. hehehe. sino nagsabi sau na kukuha ako sa dec. nagmagaling ka nanaman.

i failed kasi kulang pa inaral ko. ikaw pumasa ka pero sa tingin mo ba ok na ung inaral mo.

and beside, hintayin natin ang retake result mo. fullname mo pls...

You failed coz BOBO KA AND HABANG BUHAY KA NG BOBO AT TANGA.... KAYA MAGSHIFT KA NALANG NG KURSO MO DAHIL BAWAL ANG BOBO SA PROFESSIONG ITO.....

FYI, HINDE KULANG ANG INARAL MO KUNG HINDE KULANG ANG TURNILYO NG UTAK MO KC BOBO KA....

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